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Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Fanning the Flames of Indignation


As you may know from last week's post here, my FrenchKissed  Etsy shop was closed last Thursday.
I was guilty of subversively and deceptively with obvious criminal intent of MISCATEGORIZING some of my scans -- God forbid!
One word that Etsy often uses in their posts is "transparency." That transparency is vital to a good community...blah, blah. When you post a standard PS at the end of all your emails that says "don't share this with anyone," I don't think that's very transparent at all, but more like just the opposite and a tad threatening.
In an effort of full disclosure and true transparency, I wanted to tell you what else happened in my situation.

I ruminated.
I fumed.
I debated with myself about letting go and forgetting it.

But ... remember how Dr. Phil became famous for his phrase, "We teach people how to treat us"? If we little people keep letting the big guy intimidate us because they hold all the cards, well.... nothing will ever get better.
 I pay Etsy a sizable chunk of money every month -- not that I'm making a lot of money. Not at all. But in comparison to my product, my Etsy fees are high. Think about it. It costs 20 cents to list an item whether it's $125 or $3.99. Since I pay to use Etsy as my selling venue, we are, in essence in a contract with one another. However, the closing of my shop without warning showed me that it is a very lop-sided contract and I have no rights!
As sellers paying for a service, we should have some rights, some due process of law. Not just wake up one morning and find our shop is closed.

PROTESTY:  Shops closing on May 10
No wonder that hundreds of Etsy shops are closing on May 10 as a protest against Etsy not living up to its original mission statement to support the handmade market. IF you haven't heard about this movement, click here. When I visited this site last week, there were 280 shops pledging to close for 24 hours. Right now there are 3500!


Anyway, awake at 3:30 a.m. Monday morning from arm pain, I got an early start on my fuming and festering:) So I wrote to the Etsy's CEO Chad Dickerson. He had posted in Etsy's forum a lengthy response in regard to the uproar over a featured seller ... that Etsians should treat one another with "kindness and respect." He reiterated the rules about no name calling or calling out specific shops, etc. Hence, my decision to come back and blacken out the name of the original "Integrity" team member who wrote to me before I shared my blog post link with him....



re: Kindness and Respect

Between you and Chad Dickerson from chaddickerson
April 30 2012 9:03am EDT
Dear Mr. Dickerson,
In a recent post, you talked about the 'respect and kindness' that should always permeate communication at Etsy.
Last Thursday I had a very traumatic experience at the hands of the
Marketing Integrity Team. My shop -- which is my livelihood, not a hobby --
was closed down without warning simply because a few of my listings
were mis-categorized. After you receive this note, my shop may get
 closed again. As a seller and Etsy customer, it has become clear to me
 that I don't have a Bill of Rights. There's nothing like feeling utterly
powerless and at the mercy of another person. Part of me says I should
 move on and put this behind me, but the way I was treated was
 wrong, wrong, wrong!
I didn't get 4,000+ positive feedbacks treating my customers the way
 the Marketing Team treated me. And the sad thing is that one email
written with kindness and respect, communicating clearly and relaying
 a deadline would have averted the whole ugly scenario.

Here is the email exchange:
frenchkissedpostcards.blogspot.com/2012/04/etsy-bitchin-and-batch-editin...

Here's the email I WISH I had received: 
Hello,
This is Etsina from Etsy's Marketplace Integrity Team.
On behalf of Etsy, I'd like to thank you for being a 
valued shop owner since 2008! With more than 
4,000 positive feedbacks, we recognize that you are an asset to Etsy. 
As we endeavor to excel at marketplace integrity, we look to 
shop owners like you to help us keep to a high standard.
As such, it's important that all items in shops are properly 
dated, tagged and categorized correctly. It has come to our 
attention that a handful of your listings are improperly categorized.
 Accurate tags make for better search results, which helps 
the entire Etsy community.
Unfortunately, Etsy does not have a batch editing tool
 at this time. However, there is a free third-party application
 you can use called Betsi that will help you go through
 all 500+ of your listings in just a few minutes. 
As soon as you have edited and updated your items,
 please email me. I'll expect to hear back from you by 
Thursday, May 4. If you can't meet that deadline, let me know.
Sincerely,
Etsina

Mr. Dickerson,
I'm struggling so hard to be a successful business person. I'm working
 harder for less money than ever before in my life. I've got a
great product,but I need a larger customer base. I wish I could
say Etsy cost mea lot of money closing my shop that entire day,
 but the truth is,I may have missed $20 in sales. So in one sense,
 money isn't an issue and in another, it is very much so.
(That's why I was late paying my fees this month.)
Perhaps I should freelance and teach customer service skills
 on the side?:)
Sincerely,
Trishia Jacobs
FrenchKissed

I never received a reply from Mr. Dickerson, but shortly thereafter, 
I got a new convo from Julian Wong, the "Integrity" team manager.

Hi Trishia,

We're happy that you're a member of our community. I want to add that
 your feedback on your process to fix your items has been helpful.
 If you receive a message from us and have questions or are confused,
 don't hesitate to ask. Maintaining the integrity of the marketplace is
 very important to us and we're here to help.

-Julian




 "your feedback on your process to fix your items has been helpful" ......??
 OK. At first, I would have settled for an apology.  But now ....


Feel free to share my Demanding a Seller's Bill of Rights. 
Maybe it will help increase awareness about Etsy and force them to
change for the better. Maybe we'll actually get a Bill of Rights 
and shops won't be closed down without due process. 
You know, that whole thing about innocent until proven guilty. 
At the very least, if that woman's look 
doesn't illicit a laugh or two -- check your pulse:)


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7 comments:

Constance said...

What a "BS" nightmare!!I wish you could just sell your awesome images right from your blog or something else.
"She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her away, she adjusted her sails." e.edwards

Gail Schmidt said...

Go get 'em girl. I'll share this on my FB page. THIS is why I have my own store, after dealing with the vagaries and idiocy of ebay and the then barely new etsy. I realized five years ago that I had to be my own boss and not depend on a third party venue.
xoxo
Gail

marda said...

It's a sad state of affairs when you don't even get a reply that states.. yeah.. we read your note!
So what??? I'm glad to see so many people are involved in the May 10th
shop closing... maybe that will get some attention. I know all to well what it's like to have someone with all the power/money
take advantage with no ethics about it... good luck... Hopefully Zibbet will continue to be a good venue for you.. at least till they get to big for their britches!!!!
And I DID get a laugh.

Christine H. said...

I love that you included the letter you wish you'd received from them. That is pure brilliance. It's one thing to complain, but to offer a a better approach is downright generous of you.

Whether it will actually do any good is another story. Customer service and product quality is just generally not a priority anymore.

A very different, but illustrative example, is the Kettleman's Bagel stores in Portland. They make bagels the right way (boiled and then baked.) Because their bagels are so good, they have become very popular, popular enough that the chain store Noah's (aka Einstein Bagels) felt threatened. They offered to buy Kettleman's for a price the owner couldn't refuse. So, will they continue to produce the same quality bagels that made Kettleman's so popular? No way! They are changing the brand to Einstein and the product too. There was no benefit to the consumer, just an elimination of choice and competition. Customer service these days seems to amount to "Take it or leave it. We don't care."

Stitch1Peta said...

Yes Bad Etsy Bad.
i would love to have that image from your sellers bill of rights where can I get it please?

Michele said...

wow, so sorry about all that madness Trishia. you are awesome. all good things will continue to come your way. sending love. xo

Ann said...

well..how shi--y of Etsy!!!
i really am so sorry...what horrible ethics Etsy has.....
trying to catch up..i've been gone awhile.......